Wednesday, February 1, 2023

matriarchy

 I love to read my sister's,  Anke's Geneology, web page.

It does always makes me wonder about matriarchy, to me it seems a better way, if only for the idea that there is a better change we are our mother's children. 


 So here are my mothers

Magtilda van Eijmeren 90

Adriana Dijkshoorn 77

Neeltje Cornelia Groenheijde 97 ( she died when i was around 9 years old)

Maria Bregman 47

Maria van der Ende 83

Maria de Graaff 83  

Maria van der Mark 67 born  12-07-1767 in Schipluiden

Maria van Dorp 76

Aaltje Cornelis dr van den Bosch 70

Judith Symons dr van der Lee

Maertje Claes dr Rodenburch


This post too, i  haven't finished it. but will post as is for now.

What i want to explore with this list are many things, for example:

 All these women, my mothers, lived in an area  with a 30 km or so radius. My father dreamed of  leaving the area, and I and one brother did.. 

And what about their age? what does that tell?

And what about the fact that women in  my society, do not have a last name, really?


What do you question in your ancestry?





7 comments:

Bless said...

I think it's wonderful that you can trace your mothers for so many generations! I only knew my mother and her mother and I know the name of my grandmother's mother, but, nothing else about her (other than she had 14 children!)

jozien said...

Yes, the amount of children! It is probably a time when medicine advanced, and mothers and babies were able to survive childbirth. Because in this line i posted here it is only 2 or 3 generation that have many children (according to the record my sister collected).
Bless i think you are from a different culture than mine, yes? I wonder what tradition your culture had in naming their children. What are the names of your mothers?

Eileen T said...

I have managed to trace my maternal grandmother's line back to the 1600s, my maternal grandfather's line back to 1590, and my paternal grandmother's line back to about 1720 (I'm still working on that one. I still have my paternal grandfather to do but so far have had no luck finding the information I need ... he had a really common Christian name and surname so I need some luck to get started on his line. xx

jozien said...

That is great Eileen that you do specifically look for those maternal lines. and :
5 April 1676 : Marriage License (with Simon Dirksz van der Lee) - 's-Gravenzande - Westland (ZH-Nld) copy and past from Maertje Claes dr Rodenburch.
And yes, i will also do my paternal grandmothers line, thanks for the idea.

Sabine said...

On my father's side, my grandmother did all that when her life became less active. She would write to churches and local authorities and ask for records or she would get any of her relatives to drive her around for it. She never learned how to drive herself. When she died, aged 103, she had completed a detailed family tree dating back to the late 17th century. (Very few earlier records are available due to the Thirty Years' War in 17th century Europe when many churches, i.e. places of records, were destroyed.)

In a way, it was easy because they all lived in Franconia and Bavaria and had distinct, rare surnames. All the men are consistently named either Max, Friedrich, Karl, Heinrich or Johannes, the women are mostly Sophie, Ernestine, Karoline or Marie. They men were mainly foresters, priests (Lutheran), pharmacists (alchemists turned apothecarists) and later on, some lawyers/civil servants.

On my mother's side, it was more complicated with people coming and going from/to all over the place in the 18th and 19th century, but thanks to some diligent cousins, I have a fairly stable set of names and places.

Recently, my man has found that this was a great pastime and has converted it all to an online database which he shares with his very large Irish family, who live on four continents. Again, there are gaps here due to the Easter Rising in Ireland in 1916 which saw the general post and record office being burnt during fighting. It keeps him busy.

jozien said...

yes i think nobody is surprised, by the fact that only these days we are world citizens, and like you say, many of your recent ancestors lived in Franconia and Bavaria. And as my recent ancestors are all from a small area in South Western Holland. But there are names that overlap, between those two area: Johannes and Marie (Maria).

Bless said...

Yes, I'm originally from another culture, but, my mother's side of the family were all Catholic and everyone had fairly standard English names. :)